Hi Mark,
Flat wrap newsapaper delivery is alive and well in Sydney Metro area under the newly stuctured managed take over the Distribution from the newsagents. NewsCorp are the driving force with NINE joining the distribution process.
They are all flat wrapped at Chullora as a Central location and distributed form there to 9 different territories for delivery. Some Territories are up and running others are in a state of progress. I believe all to be completed by June 30.
The focus after this will be to return to the previous areas, namely Central Coast, Blue Mountain, Illawarra Area, Canberra ACT, Newcastle within around 18 months from now.
I am not sure about other States but Rural NSW and the CBD area are not on the immediate agenda, different ownners, different agendas.
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Colin
Single use shopping bags have been banned. Why not flat wrap ?
Single use shopping bags haven’t been banned. They now charge for them or you bring your own It’s a Woolworths Coles effort to save money There are plenty of plastic bags for Fruit and veges throughout the store for anyones use free of charge.
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Russell
Graeme Hopefully the money they save will be used to pay staff properly and give the Farmers their $5.25M they are owed. #dirtybludgers
I didn’t mention flat wrap plastic We used to wrap in greaseproof paper on rolls before plastic wrap. I commented on lame duck Coles and Woolworths fake attempt by withdrawing plastic bags for sale and the fact I corrected your comment of them being “banned” they weren’t probably should have been but weren’t Check my post please Colin.
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Colin
Graeme,
My comment changed as I wrote it and yes, it should not have been addressed to you, apologies.
As for Coles & Woolworths. The issue is with political failing not with these companies. In SA, the politicians led the way and all companies complied with a ban that started 10 years ago. Every other state apart from NSW has now banned single use bags.
SA now has the legislation in place to ban plastic drinking straws, stirrers, cutlery, also polystyrene, cups, bowls, plates. The start date has yet to be announced but is expected shortly.
Before people shout ” this isn’t possible”, note SA has been trialling the ban in specific areas and it was very popular with consumers. We just await the start date.
Meanwhile, NSW sits in the dark ages.
Yes, newspapers wrapped in plastic should be added to the list.
Thanks Colin,
I realise the big picture and don’t comment on what should be at this stage it is what is and this is where the problems are.
Mark referred to what happenned to Flat Wrap Delivery.
i answered that question as I knew it to be. I have since enquired yes it is wrapped in plastic and throw like a frisbee. flat and low. I would like to see that however I am not and haven’t been interested in Home delivery of newspapers for a long time and especially now that News Corp has finalised its decision to exclude their newsagent agreements from such a service. Nine in NSW have joined them in the new distribution model.
Retail has always beeen my game and it is as Mark states challenging with the biggest challenge coming from newsagent’s themselves. It’s really up to them as the opportunities are there.
I will leave the plastic wrap and other plastic commodities to those that are responsible for the decision-namely Government and the participants in this case News Corp with home delivery. There is too much to do that is positive for newsagent’s future than something that is out of their hands.
I forgot to sya that my interpretation of Maark’s post was with the picture of a messy looking “rolled” newsaper his statement was one of well “what happened” or “where is it at” I didn’t read any more into it that that.
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Jenny
No mention from either company of flat wrap newspapers from Chullora being available to our area now or in the future.
Anyone from News or Fairfax reps care to update us on this?
Hi Jenny,
After Sydney Metro Area from June 30 it is believed they News and NINE will follow will revisit the 5 Regionals Central Coast, Newcastle, Wollongong,Blue Mountains and Canberra ACT.
in about 18 months from now is News Corps latest verbal communication. Ofcourse this could change.
I am not sure re the Flat wrap being involved I would think it would be a big ask to wrap in Sydney and send them to these areas or for Craig to come and pick them up (joking of course).
I doubt you’ll see any cahnge for years and years to come whilst there are newspapers.
Country NSW will probably depend on what Catalino is doing.
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Bruce H
It’s now six weeks since News Ltd converted to the new centralised distributor in my Sydney zone and two weeks since Nine joined in. Never mind flat wrap versus roll wrap – the real issue is does the new centralised distribution system work? Well from my perspective, standing here in my retail shop at close to 8am, with NO Saturday papers to sell for the second weekend running, it is so far a rank failure!! My first three customers have been local subscribers who have not received their deliveries and they can’t even buy a replacement!!
Pathetic!!
Bruce, that’s dreadful, have you reached out direct to News?
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Bruce H
Mark, finally got papers at 8.15am. Both News and Nine are aware of my regular feedback since the changes and I have been encouraging all delivery customers with grievances to also complain so that the two publishers are aware of the problems that exist. I understand that this change is a major undertaking, but given the experience of the successful tender organisation(s) in newspaper distribution, the initial experience is extremely disappointing.
Hi Bruce,
Are the problems area specific or general all over the metro?
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Bruce H
Graeme, I can only comment about my local area as regards problems. But local subscribers who have rung the Publishers to complain have indicated to me that the call centre staff have admitted that they have received a high volume of complaints about missed or incorrect delivery.
Hi Mark,
Flat wrap newsapaper delivery is alive and well in Sydney Metro area under the newly stuctured managed take over the Distribution from the newsagents. NewsCorp are the driving force with NINE joining the distribution process.
They are all flat wrapped at Chullora as a Central location and distributed form there to 9 different territories for delivery. Some Territories are up and running others are in a state of progress. I believe all to be completed by June 30.
The focus after this will be to return to the previous areas, namely Central Coast, Blue Mountain, Illawarra Area, Canberra ACT, Newcastle within around 18 months from now.
I am not sure about other States but Rural NSW and the CBD area are not on the immediate agenda, different ownners, different agendas.
Single use shopping bags have been banned. Why not flat wrap ?
I agree Colin. With so many suppliers seeking to eliminate plastic from products waste like this is ripe for addressing.
Thankfully, we gave up deliveries a number of years ago…
But without plastic, how do you expect to deliver flat or rolled?
Dew on grass?
Rain?
Single use shopping bags haven’t been banned. They now charge for them or you bring your own It’s a Woolworths Coles effort to save money There are plenty of plastic bags for Fruit and veges throughout the store for anyones use free of charge.
Graeme Hopefully the money they save will be used to pay staff properly and give the Farmers their $5.25M they are owed. #dirtybludgers
unfortunately they are #DB’s and should be hung out to dry by the community at large unfortunately it ain’t going to happen.
Graeme,
Other countries have home deliveries they don’t necessarily use plastic wrap. Just cos Australia does, doesn’t mean there isn’t an alternative.
As for climate, the challenges of delivery are minor compared to other countries.
I didn’t mention flat wrap plastic We used to wrap in greaseproof paper on rolls before plastic wrap. I commented on lame duck Coles and Woolworths fake attempt by withdrawing plastic bags for sale and the fact I corrected your comment of them being “banned” they weren’t probably should have been but weren’t Check my post please Colin.
Graeme,
My comment changed as I wrote it and yes, it should not have been addressed to you, apologies.
As for Coles & Woolworths. The issue is with political failing not with these companies. In SA, the politicians led the way and all companies complied with a ban that started 10 years ago. Every other state apart from NSW has now banned single use bags.
SA now has the legislation in place to ban plastic drinking straws, stirrers, cutlery, also polystyrene, cups, bowls, plates. The start date has yet to be announced but is expected shortly.
Before people shout ” this isn’t possible”, note SA has been trialling the ban in specific areas and it was very popular with consumers. We just await the start date.
Meanwhile, NSW sits in the dark ages.
Yes, newspapers wrapped in plastic should be added to the list.
Thanks Colin,
I realise the big picture and don’t comment on what should be at this stage it is what is and this is where the problems are.
Mark referred to what happenned to Flat Wrap Delivery.
i answered that question as I knew it to be. I have since enquired yes it is wrapped in plastic and throw like a frisbee. flat and low. I would like to see that however I am not and haven’t been interested in Home delivery of newspapers for a long time and especially now that News Corp has finalised its decision to exclude their newsagent agreements from such a service. Nine in NSW have joined them in the new distribution model.
Retail has always beeen my game and it is as Mark states challenging with the biggest challenge coming from newsagent’s themselves. It’s really up to them as the opportunities are there.
I will leave the plastic wrap and other plastic commodities to those that are responsible for the decision-namely Government and the participants in this case News Corp with home delivery. There is too much to do that is positive for newsagent’s future than something that is out of their hands.
I forgot to sya that my interpretation of Maark’s post was with the picture of a messy looking “rolled” newsaper his statement was one of well “what happened” or “where is it at” I didn’t read any more into it that that.
No mention from either company of flat wrap newspapers from Chullora being available to our area now or in the future.
Anyone from News or Fairfax reps care to update us on this?
Hi Jenny,
After Sydney Metro Area from June 30 it is believed they News and NINE will follow will revisit the 5 Regionals Central Coast, Newcastle, Wollongong,Blue Mountains and Canberra ACT.
in about 18 months from now is News Corps latest verbal communication. Ofcourse this could change.
I am not sure re the Flat wrap being involved I would think it would be a big ask to wrap in Sydney and send them to these areas or for Craig to come and pick them up (joking of course).
I doubt you’ll see any cahnge for years and years to come whilst there are newspapers.
Country NSW will probably depend on what Catalino is doing.
It’s now six weeks since News Ltd converted to the new centralised distributor in my Sydney zone and two weeks since Nine joined in. Never mind flat wrap versus roll wrap – the real issue is does the new centralised distribution system work? Well from my perspective, standing here in my retail shop at close to 8am, with NO Saturday papers to sell for the second weekend running, it is so far a rank failure!! My first three customers have been local subscribers who have not received their deliveries and they can’t even buy a replacement!!
Pathetic!!
Bruce, that’s dreadful, have you reached out direct to News?
Mark, finally got papers at 8.15am. Both News and Nine are aware of my regular feedback since the changes and I have been encouraging all delivery customers with grievances to also complain so that the two publishers are aware of the problems that exist. I understand that this change is a major undertaking, but given the experience of the successful tender organisation(s) in newspaper distribution, the initial experience is extremely disappointing.
Hi Bruce,
Are the problems area specific or general all over the metro?
Graeme, I can only comment about my local area as regards problems. But local subscribers who have rung the Publishers to complain have indicated to me that the call centre staff have admitted that they have received a high volume of complaints about missed or incorrect delivery.