Despite what Twitter says – pretty sure it would be made illegal here
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Richard
Several inquiries today for copies but Human Rights Commissioner has said it would contravene our 18c law. Not likely we would see it.
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Steve
I’ve had customers ask if we would be getting the latest 3 million print run issue (I also wanted one for myself). From what I’ve gleaned from the media only French and Italian editions will be printed plus one very brave Turkish newspaper is inserting it. All other langauges including English are digital only which is disappointing. As to section 18c and whether Charlie Hebdo would be illegal in Australia, well it sets out to offend and insult just about everyone and section 18c makes that illegal. So yes if it was sold here and someone took offence and made a formal complaint it would be banned.
So if you support section 18c and have taken up the “Je Sius Charlie” cause you’d better turn the sign over I think the other side say’s “HYPOCRITE”
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Jarryd Moore
Tim Wilson is capitalising on the media coverage to get soundbites published. Either he’s a woefully under-qualified HR commissioner who doesn’t understand 18C or is deliberately misleading the public.
Think you need to read the article again Jarryd. While the ridicule of islam mightn’t trigger 18c the author Michael Bradley seems to think some of Charlie Hebdo’s other cartoons would be possible targets for 18c and he admits he doesn’t know if they would be illegal. So your point is?
Charlie Hebdo magazine demands in Australia swamping retailers, distributors
Australian magazine retailers and distributors say they are being swamped by customers demanding copies of Charlie Hebdo, a publication they have never stocked.
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I heard an interview about this topic on Radio National this morning just before 8am. The lady from Speedimpex was uncertain whether they would get any from France. No doubt they would have to go through the Australian Classificatiion Board before distribution here – could take a while.
I don’t take much notice of Tim Wilson given some of what he has said in the past. The surge in local interest in the title is interesting even if it will fade once the next big story comes along.
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June
I thought the most interesting comment I heard about Charlie Hedbo was the current French circulation. 60K was the normal print run to sell 30K (50% returns ratio) but this time it was 3M in 16 languages.
Interesting that mags the world over are consistently overprinted and overdelivered and undersold. I don’t get it? Why would you pay for such a print run (apart from selling the advertising of course) knowing you were only going to sell 50% of the product??
Wouldn’t you guess that the advertisers would demand to know the returns ratio for their product (impacting on its reach and readership) or are they just hoping that a few more will sell if they oversupply?
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Jarryd Moore
Steve,
You’re correct in that Bradley says that other cartoons would trigger 18C. However what you fail to mention is that he goes on to say that while they might trigger 18C they are protected by 18D of the legislation.
He says he doesn’t know if the 18D defense would succeed because, from my understanding, it hasn’t been tested in court. The rest of that paragraph goes on to explain why the 18D defense would likely succeed.
He explicitly states “It’s completely wrong to say that cartoons like that could not be published in Australia.”
Despite what Twitter says – pretty sure it would be made illegal here
Several inquiries today for copies but Human Rights Commissioner has said it would contravene our 18c law. Not likely we would see it.
I’ve had customers ask if we would be getting the latest 3 million print run issue (I also wanted one for myself). From what I’ve gleaned from the media only French and Italian editions will be printed plus one very brave Turkish newspaper is inserting it. All other langauges including English are digital only which is disappointing. As to section 18c and whether Charlie Hebdo would be illegal in Australia, well it sets out to offend and insult just about everyone and section 18c makes that illegal. So yes if it was sold here and someone took offence and made a formal complaint it would be banned.
So if you support section 18c and have taken up the “Je Sius Charlie” cause you’d better turn the sign over I think the other side say’s “HYPOCRITE”
Tim Wilson is capitalising on the media coverage to get soundbites published. Either he’s a woefully under-qualified HR commissioner who doesn’t understand 18C or is deliberately misleading the public.
Charlie Hebdo would not be banned under 18C. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-15/bradley-charlie-hebdo-and-18c-could-coexist-in-australia/6018068
Think you need to read the article again Jarryd. While the ridicule of islam mightn’t trigger 18c the author Michael Bradley seems to think some of Charlie Hebdo’s other cartoons would be possible targets for 18c and he admits he doesn’t know if they would be illegal. So your point is?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-16/australian-maagzine-retailers-swamped-with-demands-for-charlie-/6020342
Charlie Hebdo magazine demands in Australia swamping retailers, distributors
Australian magazine retailers and distributors say they are being swamped by customers demanding copies of Charlie Hebdo, a publication they have never stocked.
I heard an interview about this topic on Radio National this morning just before 8am. The lady from Speedimpex was uncertain whether they would get any from France. No doubt they would have to go through the Australian Classificatiion Board before distribution here – could take a while.
I don’t take much notice of Tim Wilson given some of what he has said in the past. The surge in local interest in the title is interesting even if it will fade once the next big story comes along.
I thought the most interesting comment I heard about Charlie Hedbo was the current French circulation. 60K was the normal print run to sell 30K (50% returns ratio) but this time it was 3M in 16 languages.
Interesting that mags the world over are consistently overprinted and overdelivered and undersold. I don’t get it? Why would you pay for such a print run (apart from selling the advertising of course) knowing you were only going to sell 50% of the product??
Wouldn’t you guess that the advertisers would demand to know the returns ratio for their product (impacting on its reach and readership) or are they just hoping that a few more will sell if they oversupply?
Steve,
You’re correct in that Bradley says that other cartoons would trigger 18C. However what you fail to mention is that he goes on to say that while they might trigger 18C they are protected by 18D of the legislation.
He says he doesn’t know if the 18D defense would succeed because, from my understanding, it hasn’t been tested in court. The rest of that paragraph goes on to explain why the 18D defense would likely succeed.
He explicitly states “It’s completely wrong to say that cartoons like that could not be published in Australia.”